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Tenants "in worse debt since the '80's". How could this impact YOU?

I found this via the BBC on Twitter. We, as LL's, need to be prepared that there are going to be more rent arrears on the horizon. What are your experience of rent arrears? Are they rising? I currently only have one tenant who is behind on the rent by one month. He has been made redundant from the hotel industry and has handed in his notice.

I think this is a problem that is going to grow and it is going to have a massive impact on those that do not have sufficient funds to cover voids. This is again why the "NMD brigade" must be discouraged as it will make our industry unsustainable.

Anyone who is struggling to put a deposit down for a property should take note of the below.

UK housing tenants are more in debt than at any time since the late...

Hundreds of thousands are falling behind with rental payments, largely due to rising unemployment, according to the National Landlords Association.

The situation was "pretty dire" with at least a third of members owed money, the association added.

In the past year, the association has taken more than 20,000 calls from landlords worried about rent arrears.

'Stressful'

Landlord Rukhsana Kashmiri is owed nearly £9,000 in rent on her property in north London, after both her tenants lost their jobs.

"I'm on anti-depressants and pain-killers, " she says. "My health is not good, and my whole body is aching."

However tenants are also coming under severe strain.

Zoe Abbey, 21, from Watford, fell behind with her rent after failing to find a job. .

"It wasn't very nice. You've got the landlord on the door all the time, and you're getting letters."

Apart from rising unemployment, another issue is that housing benefit is now paid directly to tenants.

Many landlords use to receive the payments themselves.

There can also be a delay of up to two months before housing benefit comes through.

Adam Sampson, of the housing charity Shelter, said the government should now offer support to tenants in the same way it has given help to debt-laden homeowners.

"The government needs to look to see how the payment of housing benefit can be speeded up. Otherwise more tenants are likely to become homeless."

Landlords are also being urged to be sympathetic to the plight of tenants who lose their jobs, and cannot pay their rent as a result.

"They should talk to their tenants - give them a breathing space," said Duncan Shrubsole from the charity Crisis.

With unemployment expected to rise further over the coming months, most expect rental arrears to go up too, with observers saying this will inevitably also lead to more evictions as well.

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People may be interested in an article I wrote a while back for my web-site called 'Dealing with Rent Arrears - Some Different Approaches', which you can read on my web-site here http://www.landlordlaw.co.uk/page.ihtml?id=74&catparid=64&s....

For example I suggest taking a less aggressive approach if the arrears are not really the tenants fault and suggest alternative solutions such as reducing the rent either permanently or just temporarily. Let me know what you think.

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Thanks for that Tessa. You are such a mine of useful information. I believe that if you have maintained and nurtured a good relationship with your tenants, it is best to try and speak to them and get an understanding of their problems, so that you can work with them to solve them in an amicable way. I agree an agressive approach is the wrong way to react. I strongly feel that, if I can communicate with tenants, then there is a way forwards. Once they start ignoring calls and not responding to emails, you know you have a fight on your hands.

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i think the difficulty comes when you have done your best, you have phoned, you've met them, written to them, advised them to go CAB, whatever, and they still dont pay. When is the "i've had enough" moment for you ?

How far in arrears do you let your tenancies go before issuing proceedings ?

i'd be interested in others views

i find that i am beginning to toughen up a bit this year

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My response as a lawyer is that when the arrears reach two months (i.e. when the mandatory possession ground kicks in), you should serve a section 8 notice and then start the eviction procedure. If they have not responded to you within two months it is arguable that they are never going to. As getting possession takes at least three months, you do not want to delay. You can lose a lot of money in that time.

Also of course, if they realise you 'mean business' they may pay up. It is better for them to realise this earlier than later, because after a while the arrears will reach a point where they can never, realistically, be paid off. I have had landlords come to me with tenants in arrears of thousands of pounds. Which they will never recover.

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My position is closer to Tessa's legal position than Vanessa's. I am not interested in having my tenant's problems become my own. While there are some things that are out of the hands of a tenant that does not mean I should step up and loan them money. The lease agreement did not have conditions such as holiday expenses, loss of a job or other exceptions to paying the rent in full.

If someone asks you for a loan and you decline why think of it differently if they owe you money for something you provided (tenancy)?

Start the legal process ASAP and make it very clear to the tenant that you will do so or have done so. If they want to propose a solution that addresses the issue in the mean time they can offer you their best solution. The landlord can stop the legal process is resolution has been achieved. You want to be first in line rather than last in line when it comes to how they allocated their limited capital.

When a tenant is late I remind myself that my lender will not allow me to be late. The lender expects me to be a buffer between some external event and my ability to pay. The tenant needs to view it in the same way. If something happens and they can not pay they still need to find a way. Have them sell something or agree to move early to limit the damage. If the tenant could convince my lender to skip payments with no downside I will have the tenant speak with my lender. No tenant has every indicated that they could convince a bank that being late was acceptable.

Charity is charity and business is business. Do not mix the two. If you want to provide the tenant with some free money ring a charity and let them pay the tenant's rent with your donation rather than train the tenant that you are a bank where they can make unlimited withdrawals. Do not tell the tenant if you funded the rent through the charity. It was a donation and nothing more. Otherwise see them in court. Most tenants will not go to court unless you have operated illegally or failed to keep your paperwork in order.

John Corey
www.ChelseaPrivateEquity.com/blog

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I am in split minds....

I agree in the first instance that if you make your tenants aware that they can come and discuss rental payment issues with you from the off set then you will find it a lot easier to deal with them if it happens and chances of them paying you back greater as they respect you and you respect them (respect goes along way)

also on this: in my experience this year I have had one lady be made redundant from a big blue chip organization, she was devastated she called me the moment she found out and ask me if I could release her from her tenancy, my reply was that I could not just release her but I understand her situation and if she was happy for me to put it on the market whilst she stayed on to see if I could let it early, if I could I would release her from her tenancy early and providing she paid any costs occurred and paid the rent up until this point then I would be happy to help....

The tenant was very grateful and lucky for us both I found someone within 2 weeks and placed them in within that time.

So my point is that communication is the key I could have easily been a stickler for the rules but would I have been any better off??....this way I did not have to get into a legal battle over rent arrears and she did not have to go through the stress and the financial issues that she was facing.


Slightly contradictory but this is why all cases vary:
On the other hand there is a type of tenant out there whom could not care less about your situation with your mortgage because lets face it in their eyes you are doing much better than them 'as we have loads of money' not always the case but this is the stereo type of a landlord in their eyes....so for some reason the tenant wants you to take note of their problems but does not consider yours and generally speaking this means trouble!

If the case is that you are not getting anywhere from the nice approach then the legal route is the only route.

For me it all depends on the situation


KR

Vicki

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This is a problem that is only going to get worse. If you have to go to eviction, factor in a lot more time and contingency to cover mortgage payments. Particularly interesting to note, that the biggest problem area is city centres ....

Evictions take longer a courts clog up ....

EstateAgentToday.co.uk - 8 May 2009

Eviction service Landlord Action says it is now taking three months just to get a hearing date because the county courts are so busy as the housing market crisis hits home.

Director Paul Shamplina said: “Of course, this delay means more lost rent. Judges and bailiffs are inundated. Not only are there landlord and tenant eviction cases to deal with, but repossessions are at a 15-year high, thereby increasing their workloads.

“The landlord has no choice but to sit in the queue and wait.”

Shamplina said there has been a ‘significant’ rise in landlords wanting to get rid of bad tenants, and that landlords are not only suffering financial hardship but stress.

He said: “I have just completed filming for BBC Breakfast News in which I was accompanied by a film crew when serving notice on a tenant who owed nearly £9,000 in rent on her property.

“The landlord was a widowed mother of three who had bought the property to give herself an income when her husband died. She is now suffering from depression and is on anti-depressants and painkillers. She told me her whole body was aching due to the stress.

“In city centres, including Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham and London, we have seen a 20% rise in the last year in the number of landlords contacting us to help them evict their tenants due to non-payment of rent.

“There are an increasing number of tenants losing their jobs, and paying the rent is not always at the top of their priorities. Being just one month late with the rent can lead to the landlord experiencing mortgage arrears and so they are doing everything in their power to rectify the situation as soon as possible. Our advice line has been overwhelmed with calls for assistance.”

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“The landlord has no choice but to sit in the queue and wait.”

It may be possible to ethically bribe the tenant in exchange for a quiet departure. You offer them money to leave, payable when you get the keys and the place is cleared out. Not a great idea but better than waiting multiple months while the court backlog clears. Just make sure you get the paperwork sorted so it is clear the tenancy has ended by mutual consent.

John Corey
www.ChelseaPrivateEquity.com/blog

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